A Great (Racist) Story

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Subject: Re: Great story
Author: keshet@cyberpass.net (keshet)
Date: 2000/07/04
Forum: alt.religion.scientology
Msg-ID: <8jsiiu02027 @enews4.newsguy.com>

Velcro Kitty said in <395F9BAE.755FF31 @home.com>:

Here's an excellent example of what a single Scientologist can do in their immediate environment — no matter how "dangerous" it may appear on the surface — might tickle your funny bone too. Sent to me by a friend.

Why is this funny? Do you find the author's furtherance of black stereotypes amusing? Personally, I think it's a damned sad statement on the Co$'s cultural ignorance.

Enjoy:

"Eleven weeks ago I was down in East Grinstead doing my usual tricks in the early hours of Saturday morning giving out copies of The Way To Happiness, doing Unconscious Person assists in shop doorways, [to persons passed out], objectives on people high on drugs, assists on people that were drunk. I believe that Narconon staff or volunteers really ought to get into the local area, safepoint it, and do some good. So that's what I'm doing.

Suddenly I saw this huge black guy (he literally dwarfed me) who was trying to sell some crack to 4 young girls. I barged in, sent the girls away, and confronted the dealer. I held a Way to Happiness book up to his face and told him he needed to read this. He was impolite (to put it mildly) … threatened to kick my head in, and I just told him I'd get back up and tell him he needed to read this again. He threatened to kill me and I said, 'That's fine. I'll haunt you for the rest of your life, and tell you need to read this.' He then asked if I was mad [insane] and I said more than likely. Eventually, he took the book and read a page or 2. Then he said, 'I'm going home. I've got to read ALL of this. And took my name and phone number.

Note: A classic example of the Brute Caricature, a common racist image that "portrays Black men as innately savage, animalistic, destructive, and criminal — deserving punishment, maybe death. This brute is a fiend, a sociopath, an anti-social menace. Black brutes are depicted as hideous, terrifying predators who target helpless victims, especially White women." -Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia

"Large black drug dealer selling crack to little white girls."

How do I know the little girls were white? Because their race is not mentioned but the dealer's is. Assuming, only for the sake of argument, that this story is true, how does the dealer's race have any relevancy? Isn't this about the triumph of Scientology over evil?

Aren't white dealers just as evil? In a word, No.

The author invokes two racist stereotypes at once to emphasize his or her heroism—a true "white" knight charging onto the scene to rescue the innocents. [Just an aside, but what were these 4 young girls doing in this neighborhood full of druggies, drunks and people passed out in doorways, in the early hours of Saturday morning?]

The author uses the black crack dealer stereotype to raise the perceived danger level of the situation. After all, as dangerous as crack and crack dealers may be, a big black male makes it so much scarier, doesn't he? It just wouldn't be the same if it was some racially unidentified person, a female, or even a "huge white guy". The point to making this character "huge" and "black" is to emphasize the difference between good/author and evil/dealer, thereby inflating the author's stature.

The second racial stereotype is that of black men preying on white women. In this case, the author tries to tug even harder on the readers' emotions by making the potential victims not only white females, but young girls. Their implied innocence further emphasizes the threat of the large, overpowering black male—the big black buck—and the true heroism of our Scientological protagonist as he or she charges to the defence of white womanhood. The KKK would be proud.

Scientology and its adherents need to come up to Present Time and break out of Hubbard's '50s mindset.

<Rest of the typical, childish "it's a TWTH miracle!" tripe snipped>

Keshet

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Subject: Re: Great story
Author: keshet <keshet@cyberpass.net>
Date: 2000/07/05
Forum: alt.religion.scientology
Msg-ID: <8ju5nu02umn @enews1.newsguy.com>

TravisSargent said in <20000704122659 .02669.00002821 @ng-ch1.aol.com>:

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Hey Keshnet — you seem to be suffering from excessive "p.c. inundation," (politically correct thinking — some people nowadays cannot read ~anything~ without turning it into some racial issue by various internal mental machinations).

Yes, pardon my PCishness, I'm afraid I still take offense at racist remarks. I guess I haven't flattened that button yet.

He was simply describing the individual for crying out loud.

Then I ask again, how was the crack dealer's race relevant? Why were the 4 young girls not described as "white"? Because the author presumes his or her readers are white and it's not necessary to point out the girls' "sameness". However, the author identifies the dealer as black in order to emphasize his difference, his "otherness", his "nonmembership-in-our-society" status, which makes him more threatening.

And I'm sorry, but having a "huge black guy" confront innocent little white girls is just way too obvious to be anything but a deliberate attempt to play on white racist fears. I find it truly amazing that Scientology is so culturally ignorant that the bigotry of this bloody stupid tale escapes you.

BTW, Travis, is the author, in fact, male? Or are you engaging in sexist assumptions, along with your racist ones?

But you saw an opportunity to turn an otherwise innocent remark to your advantage in order to denigrate the guy … and thus Scientology, didn't you?

I saw an opportunity to point out a bit of racist thinking. I don't consider that "innocent".

I understand why you denigrate PCishness rather than racism. The PC philosophy demands we respect other cultures and treat their members like human beings rather than stereotypes, in sharp contrast to the teachings of your exalted Source, who thought Japanese go crazy from reading their silly writing, that Chinese stink, and that Blacks are untrainable and too stupid to be Scientologists.

Naughty, naughty.

In Scientology's warped perception, I certainly am. Thanks.

Keshet

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Subject: Re: Great story
Author: keshet <keshet@cyberpass.net>
Date: 2000/07/05
Forum: alt.religion.scientology
Msg-ID: <8ju7am03047 @enews1.newsguy.com>

TravisSargent said in <20000704130822 .02669.00002840 @ng-ch1.aol.com>:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:35:39 -0400, Beverly Rice <dbj1120@ao.net> wrote:

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Only if it's good for PR. Elsewise they are stuck in that mindset because Hubbard is dead and gone, the tech is stuck and stale.

I'm sure that your remarks will be made a record of, and maybe they will keep this in mind for their next "Success Story".

LOL! I think it's only fair to mention that this story you all seem so full of glee to shred … was never meant for you to see in the first place!

"If only we keep our racism amongst ourselves, then it's alright…."

Do you think we care if you believe it? It was originally a report from one staff member to another staff member — never a "pr" ploy for public consumption. LOL!

It's obvious why you wouldn't want the public to see it.

But oh, with what haste and lust the vultures move in on the object of their desire! Never the benefit of a doubt … just pure invalidation only.

You lost your right to our benefit of the doubt by lying with such great frequency and consistency that it has become the standard pattern of Scientological communication. We have no incentive to believe anything you say. Tsk, tsk, you pulled it in.

Obviously Kitty shouldn't have posted it for these reasons, because we all know what you do with success stories … but it was posted and … you've all been entertaining us wonderfully with live demos of a.r.s. attitudes and feeding frenzies, etc. … ever since.

Like throwing a piece of meat into a group of starving scavengers.

Very entertaining indeed! Thanks!

Scientology thinks racist stereotypes are entertaining.

Oh — it IS true too btw.

What's the point, Travis, you don't care if we believe it.

Keshet

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Subject: Re: Great story
Author: keshet@cyberpass.net (keshet)
Date: 2000/07/05
Forum: alt.religion.scientology
Msg-ID: <8ju7o013047 @enews1.newsguy.com>

Dave Bird said in <5DCsFVCJ9kY5Ew7m @xemu.demon.co.uk>:

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In article <3962125B.4F3A @ao.net>, Beverly Rice <dbj1120@ao.net> writes:

Why is this funny? Do you find the author's furtherance of black stereotypes amusing? Personally, I think it's a damned sad statement on the Co$'s cultural ignorance.

You may find it racially insensitive, but it is absurd. Think of a small market town of about 10,000 people. It is in the nice suburban country side about forty miles from the big rich city, where the retired stockbrokers go to live. Now I am sure you could buy the usual drugs there if you looked hard enough and had the right contacts. But they are not sold by large black gentlemen with big gold necklets standing on street corners. In fact I do not remember seeing one non-white resident there. (The distribution of races in very uneven: ocean-going ports have had black communities for centuries and most black people are in big metropolitan areas, but when you come to small rural towns or fishing ports they are almost entirely white, in fact 90% local and in-bred for generations).

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Which makes this tale all the more racist because the stereotypes are unrealistic beyond even their normal level of bigotry.

Keshet

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Subject: Re: Great story
Author: keshet@cyberpass.net (keshet)
Date: 2000/07/09
Forum: alt.religion.scientology
Msg-ID: <8kb2d402miq @enews2.newsguy.com>

TravisSargent said in <20000705165635 .02065.00002726 @ng-cg1.aol.com>:

On 5 Jul 2000 02:15:26 GMT, keshet@cyberpass.net (keshet) wrote:

TravisSargent said in <20000704122659 .02669.00002821 @ng-ch1.aol.com>:

<snip>

He was simply describing the individual for crying out loud.

Then I ask again, how was the crack dealer's race relevant?

Af far as I'm concerned it wasn't. It appears you've made it so though.

Not I. The author of this little tale made an issue of the dealer's race. I merely pointed it out.

Why were the 4 young girls not described as "white"?

Because they were. So what? Does every ~mention~ of race have to be "racist" in nature?

Well, no, but I would say that every mention of race by a member of the stuck-in-the-1950s-bigoted-white-culture-of-LRH is certainly suspect.

Because the author presumes his or her readers are white and it's not necessary to point out the girls' "sameness". However, the author identifies the dealer as black in order to emphasize his difference, his "otherness", his "nonmembership-in-our-society" status, which makes him more threatening.

However believable they seem to you, you have to admit that your remarks above are nothing more than assumption. It would seem that you may be the racially biased one.

I have to admit no such thing.

I suggest you read some anthropological or sociological studies of racial issues, then come back and we'll have a proper discussion of your friend's presumptuous remarks.

"We have seen that stereotypes may or may not originate in a kernel of truth; they aid people in simplifying their categories; they justify hostility; sometimes they serve as projection screens for our personal conflict. But there is an additional, and exceedingly important, reason for their existence. They are socially supported, continually revived and hammered in, by our media of mass communication—by novels, short stories, newspaper items, movies, stage, radio, and television." [and I would add, "usenet posts"]

-Gordon W. Allport, The Nature of Prejudice

And I'm sorry, but having a "huge black guy" confront innocent little white girls is just way too obvious to be anything but a deliberate attempt to play on white racist fears. I find it truly amazing that Scientology is so culturally ignorant that the bigotry of this bloody stupid tale escapes you.

Oh I can see it from your point of view quite easily. The problem is that whether any of us like it or not, that is very common language to describe such an encounter in the real world.

This is one of the points I am attempting to make, obviously not very successfully. The "very common language" is that of the dominant white society, who see nothing wrong with that language, even though it perpetuates racial stereotypes, simply because it IS common.

I had an acquaintance explain to me that calling brazil nuts "nigger toes" is not racist, because "everybody" does it. You are defending you friend's prejudiced images in the same way.

I noticed you haven't said a peep about the good work the guy did though. Only how "racist" he is. Take an oviously intimidating criminal source off the street, rehab him to a certain extent, get him to stop committing crimes, have him turn around and start helping OTHERS, etc., etc. … and all you can find to say about him is he's "racsist." What's this world coming to?

I did not peep about the "good" this Scientologist did because I know this tale to be "just another fabrication"[1]. It may serve as inspirational literature within your church but out here in the real world, it is unbelievable tripe. If you wish to discuss why it is pure hokum, I would be happy to oblige. However, as you have noted elsewhere in this thread, this story has already been thoroughly savaged by critics, so I understand why you would not wish to suffer further ridicule.

Well, it happened.

No, it did not, except in the author's fertile imagination.

It's over. And I really don't care how you find it.

Then why to you continue to respond?

You will twist it to suit your agenda any way you can.

My agenda is the confrontation of racism, bigotry and prejudice. What's yours?

BTW, Travis, is the author, in fact, male? Or are you engaging in sexist assumptions, along with your racist ones?

Am ~I~ engaging in sexist assumptions?? Well, honestly that thought never even occurred to me. I see it occurred to you though. Why? Are you operating on a secret agenda? The author is male.

I thought you might be faithful to Source, which is replete with sexisms. The author was not identified. I had no way of knowing if he was male or female (to be frank, my first impression was "female", so I admit my own prejudice in assuming something so "silly" was penned by a woman) but you referred to "him" so I wondered if you actually knew him or simply assumed he was male.

But you saw an opportunity to turn an otherwise innocent remark to your advantage in order to denigrate the guy … and thus Scientology, didn't you?

I saw an opportunity to point out a bit of racist thinking. I don't consider that "innocent".

Well get that it WAS innocent.

You are wrong. Presenting racial stereotypes is NOT innocent. Insisting that it is helps assure the continuance of the prejudice.

You remind me of the prim & proper old maid who sees "sex" in every sentence, word, event or action. Clean your windscreen (you are a Brit are you not?) and

You are Wonder White Bread to the core, are you not?

things won't look so "dirty" to you all the time.

Remember, if you have a dirty windscreen (windshield in the states), everywhere you go … it's dirty. A good wash job can do wonders for how you see OTHER people.

That would be a whitewash, eh?

Your windscreen is clear because you refuse to confront prejudice, instead preferring your blindered view of L. Ron Hubbard's comfortable little white world.

Keshet

[1] "I am afraid [Co$'s] claim of teaching 1.5 million children in South Africa to read is JUST ANOTHER FABRICATION."

-Johan Klopper, Second Secretary
[South African embassy, Canberra, Australia]

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