May 10, 1997 - Gregg Hagglund
The Toronto Picket Report.
1.Toronto Org Scouted on Wednesday May 7, 1997.
I drove in to Toronto so as to arrive at the lunch hour. The org
was not as I remembered from the mid 70s. It was as dead as a doornail.
The displays were sunlight yellowing and the staff inept, tho' polite. I
asked for a copy of HOM and they had to dig it up for me from another
location. The org is a multi story building, about 8 or 10, I
think. The upper floors have offices and living quarters. The upper
windows display a jumbled mess of odds and sods up against them. Bags,
bits of clothing, flotsam and jetsam. Really unkempt looking. The the
street level facing is a bit rundown except for Brothers Restaurant,
which is in the middle third of the face of the bldng. ( I recommend
Brothers for competantly prepared and well served general eating. The
staff do not appear to like their neighbors much.) The left half of
the org is an Office like entrance with a little sign advertising jobs
available at low pay and high adventure. They don't mention brainsucking.
The right half of the org is the public section for body routing
and book sales. On my visit it was deserted except for one Sea Org gal
hanging up some decorations and two guys kinda middleaged and bland in
personality. After they dug up HOM they were dismayed that all I
wanted to do was confirm something I had been told. I said I wanted to
check the 'Source' of the clam tales. This did not make them happy. I
read the Clam stuff, handed them back the book and left. They were
terrible sales people, but polite enough. As I left I noted the
incredible 50s style 'B Horror Movie' designed anti-psyche posters in the
window and the ad for the 47 Anniversary of Dianetics Celebration at the
Queen Elizabeth Theatre for May 10 at 7:30pm.
2.Notices of Demonstrations Filed on Thursday:
The Charter of Freedom and Rights guarantees that you can
demonstrate your point of view or protest anothers, provide this is done
in an appropriate way. In Toronto that includes filing a Notice of
Demonstration. On this Notice you must provide a lot of information, even
proposed signs or banners. The police want this kind of thing: Name,
phone, address of the filer.[Mine] Name of organisation. [Independent]
Number of maximum proposed demonstrators. [10] Duration. [3 to 5 pm]
Location.[696 - 700 Yonge St] Object of Demonstration.[the Church of
Scientology] Purpose.[To protest the various unethical practices of the
management of the Church of Scientology] On the second Notice I
listed the Queen Elizabeth Theatre from 6: 30 to 9:30 pm the same day.
The police want this stuff so the watch commanders know about potential
trouble spots and if they need to set up barriers and other logistics.
Also, in Toronto, the object of your ire gets a copy in advance.
Since I had posted on the net I wanted to organise a Protest, I figured
the Co$ were on the lookout anyways.
3.Religious Sanctuary and Residence Attacked on Friday.
Now, I have *no* idea who these characters were, but late Friday nite,
four brave souls in dark clothing and traveling in a dark red minivan
pulled up to the front of my Residence, which is the Sanctuary of the
Temple I minister for and egged the front with about a dozen. My neighbors
security camera caught the action, but not the license plate or any faces.
The police say, oh well. Five minutes with a hose and the traces were
gone. Egg shells went into the composter.
TWO PICKETS ON SATURDAY
4. First Picket from 3:30 to 5 pm.
I picked the late afternoon for the first picket at the Toronto
Org itself because I knew that the foot traffic at that time was high on
a Saturday. I met with my two co-demonstrators at the Brothers
Restaurant at 2:30 pm. I had to, of course, go right past the org to get
in to the restaurant. The org was all abuzz. They had 5-6 people,
cameras and displays ready and waiting and were milling about even at
2:30. My fellow demonstrators wish to remain anonymous at this
time and I can respect that. I shall refer to them as Artemis and
D'Artangnan. We confered for awhile and reaffirmed the ground
rules and discussed some of the advice I had received and they had read
on ars. Ghandi Tech was to be the rule of the day. The flyers would be
offered to passersby, but no chasing would be done. If the Cos wanted
street debates they weren't going to get it. The sidewalk in front of the
org is about 8 feet wide so if passersby had questions we would move to
the curb side. Flyers could not be given to cars that stopped ( if any)
unless it was a taxi. If a passerby dropped a flyer we would pick it up.
Flyer Recipients were to be thanked.Artemis and I would give out flyers
and D'Artangnan would be doing most of the curbside chats (for reasons
that will soon be obvious).
At 3:15 we repaired to the local parking facility where I had the
Picketing supplies. I had assembled a selection of signs to match the
requests of prospective participants. The signs were all 30"x20" bright
yellow form core with black 3" high lettering in Helvitica Bold Italics.
(Clearly visible as a sign for at least 300 feet and the
content was readable from about a 50 feet.)
Artemis chose a sign that had: What 'Church' Intimidates and Sues
Maliciously? and: What 'Church' Persecutes and Frames Its Critics?
My sign read: Scientology: DANGEROUS UFO CULT
and:
Canada has only one CRIMINALLY CONVICTED CHURCH: Scientology!
D'Artangnan carried: Lisa Macpherson: Killed by her 'Church'?
and: IS Scientology Practising Medicine Without a Licence?
Each of us were 'up' on the topics we displayed so as to respond
adequately and knowledgably to the questions of the passersby . We figured
the Lisa sign would draw a lot of questions and it did.
I also had 250 of the Roland Xenu flyers in packets of 50. (No eggs
all in one basket.) I had the flyers in a Paper Carrier Bag I wore. Other
equipment I carried in belt pouches were a camera, microrecorder, spare
film and batteries and a Cell phone. I also had $XXX dollars in Bail
money on hand, just in case.(Thankyou Ted.)
Accoutered and ready we returned the one block back to the org. We
carried our signs inverted on the way there because I didn't secure a
'Parade' permit ($$$). We did catch them a bit off guard by starting 30
minutes later than on the Notice. One Scieno spotted us about 50 feet out
and dashed inside to rally their resources. They started scrambling out
the front doors of both halves of the org.
They immediately were in our faces with cameras and video recorders.
Infact they had two videocameras. One or the other taped us during the
entire demo.
Artemis and D'Artangnan were immediately approached by one woman in
her early forties, (an OT7) for their names,which they declined to give.
When she asked me I told her mine. (See tape transcript in a seperate post
titled: Toronto: Reverend Buttocks Blows Hard.)
I had it on good advice that the good Reverend Buttnor (GoldenAss) or
Buttocks, or his representative assigned to 'handle' me, would immediately
try to dominate the situation verbally. I was treated to the Rev'd up Rev
hisself. What a maroon! (See other post.) I had determined to engage him
very briefly and not be distracted from what we were there to do: display
displeasure and inform the public. We weren't there to do a public debate
with the Org staff.(More good advice.)
5. The Picket Proceeds.
After a short confront with the Rev the picket proceeded. I did take
some photos which I will try to web later this week.
The public LOVED IT!
Typical comments were:
About Time! Keep it up! I hate these wackos! Could I have another
flyer for my friend? Your against them are yah, well way to go! Thankyou
for this. etc.
All I had to do to get a flyer snatched from my hand was to make eye
contact and smile broadly. On more than one occasion a passerby would blow
past with that 'you are invisible to me and I don't want to be bothered'
glazed eye look and then a moment later the signage I carried about UFO
CULT would register and they would turn around, come back and ask for a
flyer. I had one lady, whose hands were full, who asked me to fold it and
stick it in one of her bags.
People were crossing through the four lane traffic from across Yonge
Street to get a flyer. Bicyclists would stop. Cars did not honk or stop,
but we got too many 'thumbs up' Acks from motorists to keep track of.
There seems to be a very low opinion of the Co$ in Toronto.
Of course Org staff were trying to chase down anyone who they could to
take their stuff which consisted of a Freedom Mag, and Invite to the 47
Celebration and a one page DA of me, CAN and the Internet sweetened by
Religious Freedom and abuse of Free speech bullshit. ( See other Post.)
For those of you unfamiliar with Toronto there are a few interesting
public conventions you need to know. First, this is a real clean city.
Lots or public waste baskets and many seperated for recyclables. These are
used alot. Second, experienced city dwellers have learned the art of
dodging the handouts to a high degree. Third, If a passerby takes a
handout they only do so, for the most part, because they *want* it.
Fourth, Once a passerby has taken a flyer, they very rarely will discard
it by dropping it or wadding it up and tossing it on the ground. If they
are going to dump it after they have read it on the street then they use
the waste baskets.
By 5pm the street was littered with Co$ discards, many crumpled and
contemptuously dropped. This is a big insult. Not one RX special was
wasted and we went through 150 in 90 minutes. Given that we all spent some
time answering questions from the public, I would say that when I was
trolling for recipients I averaged a flyer every 30 seconds, most eagerly
received and often, happily snatched or asked for!
One sorry Org specimen, a short stocky dark haired loud mouthed guy
kept carping from a doorway, "Three? Only Three?" Yukka,Yukka, Yuk.
Unfortunately this lump couldn't count.
There were more than 200 demonstrators, falling into three classes:
Highly visible and active (the guys with the signs), active but
transient, ( the happy recipients of the RX flyers) and vocal transients.
(The universally positive comments of transients who did not want a flyer
but wanted to add their two cents.)
All three of us spent considerable time answering questions but
especially D'Artangnan. On more than one occasion he had small audiences
of three or even four people listening to the facts on poor Lisa. Co$
staffers would invade these groups to try and counterpropaganda, but from
what I saw D'Artangnan handled them well.
[I hope that both Artemis and D'Artangnan will post their own 'KR's,
but if not that is ok.]
I did have one chap who almost caused a ruckus. He had taken a
flyer from us and gone on his way. Then he read it and came back to ask
me some questions. He wanted to know if this stuff was true. I told him,
No it was all an artificially and deliberately created secret mythology.
He said he knew that it was BS, but was it *my* BS or did the Co$ teach
this? I told him that it was not verbatim, but a paraphrase as the Co$
was trying to keep it secret using CopyRight and Tradesecrets, but if he
didn't believe me to ask the Co$. Well he thought that was a good
idea and approached one of the counterflyer gals. (NOTE: the Toronto org
almost exclusively used women for their interventionist countermeasures.
One guy was on videocamera for about 30 minutes.) He waves the RX
flyer at her and asks, Is this truely taught by the Co$? The woman
refuses to answer and says he should ask one of the other ladies,
pointing at the OT7. This guy persists. The Gal starts to get panicky and
shrill about how he should go ask this other lady. This guy is getting
the brush off and he doesn't like it so he is getting louder and more
annoyed. I see the Co$ staff *letting* this develop into a confrontation.
They could see this was trouble brewing and just watched. So I
intervened. I told the guy to ease off as this lady genuinely believed
that if she saw this stuff she would be hurt or even die and he should
ask that lady over there, who had permission to see this. So the guy
cools down, says he is sorry for getting carried away and goes over to
the OT7 and says, Is this stuff true? The OT7 says No! Its from the
Internet and the Internet is all lies! At this the guy starts to laugh
and leaves saying, So it is true, you people are being had!
I had a pair of lady tourists from Germany ask for a flyer. They were
young, blonde, in their early thirties, obviously sisters and had looks to
die for. They said they hated the Co$, it was hurting Germany and was
undemocratic. A Co$ staff lady heard that and said something I didn't
catch in German. The two ladies laughed and said in English to me, That
stupid woman thinks we are Fascists, which is stupid, the Scientologists
are the Fascists. They make propaganda just like they show us in school
that the Nazis did. They should get out of Germany.etc.
During the whole picket the police came by about every 15 minutes to
take a peek, that felt reassuring. When we started there was a Bicycle
Beat Cop parked across the street for at least the first 10 or 15 minutes.
I think he was satisfied things were going to be 'quiet' and went off.
At 5pm sharp we stopped the protest by inverting our signs and
leaving. We went back to my vehicle and dumped out stuff. (BTW the new
ARSCC (WDNE) Mark 47 Hummers are a real bitch to park. Gas guzzlers too.)
We went back to Brothers and had a bite to eat and analyized our
performance and shared our experiences.
6. Second Picket at 6:45 to 8:30 pm.
The Toronto Org rented the Queen Elizabeth Theatre at the
Canadian National Exhibition Grounds for the Official 47th Anniversary
Celebration of the release of Dianetics. The Theatre seats 1300. Base
rent is $2650. Plus taxes (15%), plus Union Stage Hands and required
InHouse Equipment Rentals. (And more 15% taxes.)Also the T.O. had pretty
costly glossy postcard sized invites printed by the hundreds and had
advertised and laid out quite a large spread of free food and Beverages (
non alcoholic). We didn't see the food but I imagine it featured a Rice
and Beans salad, of course. Minimum cost for all this would have to be at
least $5000 Canadian. Likely as high as $8,000. And it was wasted.
The event was a dud. A complete PR and staging Disaster.
We arrived at 6:45 and parked in the one open lot. We then
proceeded the block over to the front of the theatre. The theatre has a U
shaped driveway so that vehicles can drive in and disgorge occupants at
the entrance and then swing right back out onto the street. We
could not picket inside the U as that is private property, even though it
is not posted, and the CNE Security have the power to issue some pretty
stiff tickets for trespass. We stayed on the sidewalk at the open end of
the U at the street. Standard 4 foot wide walk and about 50 feet worth of
it in the U. When we got there at 6: 45 about 30 clams and guests were
milling about outside the theatre entrance talking and smoking
(yech)Kools. Most had familiar faces from one time or another earlier at
the Org Demo. I assumed twice as many were already inside to set an
initial attending figure at this point of 100 max. Reverend Buttocks was
out front, pacing and attended by a herd of about 10 kids aged 8 to 12.
As soon as he noticed we had showed his already sulky demeanor became an
absolute black glower. The kids were pointing to us and asking him
questions. And he was telling them something and pointing to us. This
makes me a bit sad. I can imagine what a twisted type of information he
was imparting to them. "Those are enemies. They are Suppressives and
Bigots. Nothing on the signs is true or means anything. Look at them, how
downstat they are dressed, they are all lunatics, etc" Those poor
innocents. What a shame. This is a pretty deserted area of
Exhibit Halls Bldings, but it is a main bus thoroughfair. Pedestrian
traffic was virtually non existent, but traffic was steady at about a car
every minute and buses every 10 minutes oneway or another. I am trying to
get my hands on the Media Release they sent out, but I have had it read
to me on the phone. Pretty standard fair, and no mention of Scientology.
My contact said she got the copy out of the trash in her bosses office.
It wasn't even filed as is SOP.
NO Media Showed. They ignored the whole thing.
The front of the Theatre has dark blue/black mica or glass paneling on
it and the T.O. had a banner about 3 feet by 20 feet tacked up. The banner
was white paper and had 47th Anniversary of Dianetics neatly painted on it
in sky blue paint. In other words it was not very outstanding. The banner
was hung at shoulder height and add to that the fact that the clam
SmokeOut going on was right in front of the banner and you realize right
away that even a small crowd hid the damn thing from the street. They had
standard size Dianetics Cover posters up too, but these were just brown
blots with yellow writing even at 30 feet.
With our bright yellow signs we were clearly visible for 100s of
meters in any direction on the Fair Grounds.
Cars would go by and people would be craning their necks to see our
signs. If they slowed down we would flip the signs to give them both
sides. It was quite windy at times and we were walking back and forth with
one side facing the Clam SmokeOut and the other treating the traffic.
When a Bus came by we would give the driver and passengers a good look
too.
Occasionaly a car would go by very slowly peering at our signs and
pointing at the clams. These were the herd of clams coming to this 'event'
and they were none too pleased with our presence. We got fingers and
Squeeling tires as they turned about looking for the parking, for which
there was NO sign out front and if you weren't familiar with the grounds,
not easily spotted. Infact one set of clams actually stopped and asked me
where the parking lot was, " Hey smartass, where do we park?" I resisted
the temptation to send him into Lake Ontario and gave him valid, simple
directions.
A lot of clams also came by bus and were let off about a block away. They
kept peering in windows of the Bldngs looking for the 'Event'. (The
theatre entrance is recessed back from the street of course for the U
shaped driveway.) When they got close enough to see the writing on the
signs they clued in. We made good sign posts. The ARSCC* Picket Parking
Valet and Tour Guide Services were a complete success. (*WDNE)
We kept track of the body count, giving and taking for those who
wandered in and out. By the announced 7: 30 start there was at most 200
Clams inside or out. The start time came and went without notice until
about 10 to 8 pm when the first of the FIVE times they announced "We're
starting Now" drew some of the faithful inside. Another 100 Clams and
guests kept drifting in until about 8:20 when I think they actually did
start. At least that was the time the odd clam or two sneaking out for a
smoke stopped happening. We called it a done deal at 8:30.
Total attendance was at most 300 people from a population of over 5- 8
million within 45 miutes drive in time. I imagine they got every body to
sit in the front centre section inside. Must have been pretty depressing
for the Org Staff! A less that 25% capacity turn out for the 'big event'.
They had been pretty Upstat about attendance earlier
at the org from the snippets of intertalk I caught.
All in all it was a total embarassment for the Toronto Org.
7. Incidents at the Second Picket.
The Reverend Buttocks was out front the whole time pacing back
and forth and giving us the death stare. He looked like any other
outofpocket entrepeneur hosting an absolute PR Flop: Immensely Unhappy.
The clams gawked and pointed at us some laughing and others glowering.
The kids tried a little heckling, but drifted off to play around a huge
fountain nearby. Once in awhile some adult woudl try to round them up,
but it was hopeless. I got the distinct impression these kids did not
have much opportunity to have fun and be just regular, well, *kids*.
At one point three children came up to me, two girls and a boy. The
older girl was about 14 and had a taperecorder. Reverend Buttocks saw
them and made a beeline from about 50 feet. He almost ran! These kids
were not clams. I knew this by their dress ( the usual designer stuff
like Nike and Logo'd clothing as opposed to Sally Anne hand me downs) and
the fact they came up to me at all. The oldest girl said she and her
friends were doing a school project on Scientology and wanted to ask me a
few questions. (Yes, I will be writing to the PTA's and the Teachers
Elementary School Federation.) She wanted to know if I hated
Scientologists and where I got my information. Rev. Buttocks was close
enough to hear that and catch my answer. I said, No, I didn't hate the
people, I just disagreed with the management practices and the costs. Did
they have Internet Access in their School? (Affrimative nods.)Then they
should check out Operation Clambake through DejaNews and the Scientology
pages. Compare all the information, I advised them, and then decide for
themselves what to think. At this point Rev. Buttocks jumped in and said:
" He is a liar and a bigot. A lunatic. He said on the Internet that
scientologist should be hunted down and killed like wolves!" This pushed
my button. I am not perfect and I was getting tired. So I shot back, "
You are a dishonest propagandist who quotes out of context." He shoots
back," It was on the Internet so it has to be true!" Now this was so
funny I had to laugh. And I saw the bewildered looks on the kids faces.
They were being argued over by two adults, which isn't fair. The girl was
still taping, so I said to her, "Get him to give you the flyer he printed
about me and use DejaNews to find out for yourself." Then I gave them a
big smile and moved away. The Rev. treated them to a good 5 minutes of
propaganda and then the kids went back towards the theatre. The
Reverend then planted himself square in the centre of the sidewalk and
just stood there. We were forced to walk around him for a good 10
minutes. Each time I would pass behind him I said 'Bread and Butter".
After 10 minutes of this he went back to the theatre front. He is a
*very* unhappy clam.
Another motorist stopped later and shouts, Why are you doing
this? I reply, because they have a ruthless management. He says, but in
the Globe they say they have changed. I say, They are less than
forthright and their doctrine of oppression is still in force. He says,
give me a flyer. So I cross into traffic ( a no no) and give him a flyer.
He wants to talk and I tell him I can't stand in the road. So he pulls
into the first bit of the Q.E.Theatre driveway. Buttocks sees this and
starts to dog trot over. My driver friend asks where I got the flyer and
I tell him the Internet. He says what is the URL? (Note: I screwed up and
didn't have or print up a list.) I tell him how to find Operation
Clambake, which he writes down on the flyer, and I added as Rev Buttocks
joined us, "Don't forget to check out the scientology main site to
compare informationm the URL is www.scientology. org or com, ask this
gentleman he is a Scientologist and could fill you in on that. Say Rev is
it .org or .com this guy wants to know?" Then I smile at the driver and
move on. The Rev talks to this guy for a few minutes, things get heated.
Then the Rev is joined by the Lady OT7 from earlier and she takes a spin
at the driver. Then one of the other OT3+ ladies from earlier joins them
and takes a spin at the driver too. The three of them are all bent over
talking to this guy and presenting their posteriors to the street and
passing traffice. It was hilarious! The poor guy behind the wheel was
looking very displeased and angry. This went on for a good five minutes.
At one point one of the passengers in the back seat gets out walks over
to me and says, Can I have a flyer too? Those people are all liars and
thieves. Shortly thereafter the car pulled out. Later D'Artangnan gave
a good 10 minutes to a driver who stopped to ask for a flyer and about
Lisa. A CNE security type finally broke that up and asked the guy to move
on, as it was a No Parking Zone.
We had two police patrol car visits to ask us how it was going and were we
going to be peaceful etc. Artemis and D'Artangnan let me do the talking
and I told the Cops both times that everything was fine. And we chit
chatted a bit about the Co$ criminal record.
These coppers knew their stuff. Both times the good Rev. would start to
trot over and the cops would wind up our conversation and drive off with a
polite wave to the Rev.
I think the Rev was getting a good work out.
During the course of our hour and 45 minutes on site we received a lot
of verbal and non verbal acknowledgements from Clams and from the passing
traffic.
One clam yelled at us "psyches" and at least four Clam drivers gave us the
finger. Most significantly we had 5 highly positive Bus Driver Acks. One
driver even stopped and opened the door and said something like 'Keep it
up" or " Good going".
And one Bicycle Ack. Another German student. He took a flyer and asked
for my email address. He had uncomplimentary things to say about the Co$
but he was on the clock and had to move on. ( I think he was a courier.)
The late arrivals for the 'Big Event' petered out at about 8:20 and
they finally closed the doors at 8:25. We decided the field was won and
packed it in at 8:30, even tho' I had filed a Notice for a Demo til 9:30.
When we got back to the Events Parking lot I did a quick car count.
There were at most 50 cars in the lot. About 10 were clearly marked as CNE
maintenance vehicles and I spotted about 10 more with the Yellow CNE staff
stickers, so I figure only 30 cars were possibly there for the 'Big
Event'. A lot of them were pretty beat up too.
I drove my camarades,'Artemis' and 'D'Artangnan' back into Toronto
City Centre (the CNE is on the South West edge of Toronto). We talked
about what we had done and laid plans for the future. They were both
concerned for me because of the DA letter and a liitle apprehensive in
retrospect about the day. This was understandable. We were winding down
from an experience that we had been prepared to take a beating for if
necessary and all in all it had gone well. My friends both decided to
remain unnamed at this point, but both want to do it again. We have
already made plans but would welcome others.
After all, the Rev and his cohorts *did* thank us more than once at
the first demo for giving them free publicity, so we just *have* to come
back as we offered to.
They really need our help.
I covered all the expenses on this one ( except for one parking fee.)
But that is ok. It didn't amount to more that $150 all told and much of
that was a one time expense.
[I will happily exchange my receipts for the usual Prozac and Ritalin
Vouchers from the Accounting Dept at the ARSCC (WDNE). Just don't slip in
the damn Gummie Bear 'Bonus'. I heard that others have lost fillings on
the damn things and our ARSCCHealth Plan sucks.]
We must have cost the Toronto Org Tens of Thousands in lost potential
income from innocents they will not be able to deceive.
And next time I will have had the time to set up a press conference
and photo ops. I know more about public relations than Reverend Buttocks
and co. could dream about. And I am very good in front of the Camera.
ACTRA members usually are.
Please watch for my followup Post titled:
Toronto: Reverend Buttocks Blows Hard.
This post will contain the full transcript of my Publicaly and Openly
made Demo Tape Recordings and the full text of the DA and PR flier. And my
reply to same.
If Graham Berry sees this, I would like to know if the same thing handed
out Stateside would have a Libel Case.
I will web everything I can as soon as possible.
Keep on Sluggin'
Gregg
Hey, what SP level can I attest to now? <grin>
This post contains three significant sections:
1. A complete reproduction, as far as this medium will allow, of the text
of a document disseminated to the citizens of Toronto by the Church of
Scientology whose author is apparently the self same 'Reverend' Buttnor.
This without editorial comment within.
2. A true transcript, with editorial comment, of a publicly and openly
recorded discourses between myself and others and members of the Church of
Scientology of Toronto, one of whom may be clearly identified as
'Reverend' Al Buttnor. These made on May 10, 1997 in a public place,being
the sidewalk in front of and adjacent to 696, 698 and 700 Yonge St.
Toronto Ontario.
3. A refutation as described below of the said document, as well as a
Challenge to the "good Reverend" to provide Certain Proofs now, or be
likely be asked to later, and in court, failing thereupon to do so at the
financial peril, in law, to himself and his 'Church'.
Section One:
The following document is reproduced in is entirety, excepting the logo.
This document is in the public domain and was freely distributed, without
charge, indiscriminately to any and all members of the public in Toronto
Ontario Canada on May 10, 1997 who happened by the site of our protest.
I will make my comments upon this deceitful and maliciously conceived
document as the half truths and outright deceptions contained herein
pertain to me, personally.
I invite others to comment and disect this Co$ trash.
I will show by properly quoting from all of the true sources of Reverend
Buttnor's information, that he chose, with malice of forethought and
deliberate intention to mislead the public as to my true intentions, which
were known to him, my true meanings of any statement I have made in its
proper context, which he chose to ignore, and my true beliefs and concerns
of the practices of 'exit counselling and deprogramming , which he knew
full well not to be as he has constructed.
Further, I will challenge Reverend Buttnor to produce one iota of public
advertising or solicitation upon my part to conduct a business enterprise,
by any name, for the purpose of either exit counselling or deprogramming.
I would remind any reader, anywhere in the world, that Canada has
criminally convicted the Church of Scientology for acts of theft , and
fraud, amongst others, against the People of our Freedom loving nation. A
nation I love dearly. A nation whose freedoms I have offered to defend
with my life. A nation whose government I and my family have honourably
served for three generations. A nation whose status, in the eyes of a
troubled world, is "the best Nation on the face of this Earth in which to
dwell". A nation I will continue to defend from the depredations of the
"Cult of Greed and Power": Scientology.
********
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF TORONTO
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS
For information: Reverend Al Buttnor
[416] 925-2145
May 10, 1997.
STATEMENT ON PROTEST
Today is a day of celebration for Scientologists in Toronto as it marks
the 47th anniversary of Dianetics: The Modern Science of Modern Health,
first published in May of 1950 by author, humanitarian, and Founder of the
Scientology religion, L. Ron Hubbard. Mr. Hubbard's purpose was very
simple: to help all that wished it to become more spiritually aware and
live better lives. Out of his work also came workable technologies in
education, drug and criminal rehabilitation, and moral rejuvenation -- all
meant to better mankind.
The religion of Scientology fully supports freedom of speech. We
belief as Mr. Hubbard wrote that "man is basically good." However, we
decry the irresponsible use of that freedom to promote hatred and
intolerance towards any individual or group including ourselves. A society
can only go so far as it has responsible members.
The organizer of today's protest, William Hagglund, has publicly
stated that Scientologists "should be dealt with as wolves are." This
unblemished hatred is freely promoted on the Internet.
Like the now-defunct U.S.-based Cult Awareness Network which was found
culpable by a Washington State jury for the kidnapping and deprogramming
of a young Christian man and awarded him almost $5 million in damages, Mr.
Hagglund also promotes himself as an "exit counsellor." By spreading
biased and misleading information with the pretence of impartiality, he
hopes to make a career for himself in the "Enlightened Self Interest
Council for World Harmony," a business he set up.
Deprogrammers, such as those associated with the Cult Awareness
Network, after creating fear and mistrust in families, bilk them for
thousands of dollars in fees to "rescue" their loved ones by kidnapping
and worse.
The United Nations Declaration on Human Rights, Declaration on the
Elimination of all Forms of Intolerance and of Discrimination Based on
Religion or Belief as well as the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
are quite clear that Canadians and Scientologists have the rights to
freely hold and practice their religious beliefs without discrimination or
threat.
The United Nations has declared that:
"Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and
religion. This right shall include freedom to have a religion or whatever
belief of his choice, and freedom, either individually or in community
with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief
in worship, observance, practice and teaching."
Scientology®: Improving Life in a Troubled World
696 Yonge Street, Suite 807, Toronto, Ontario M4Y 2 A7, Tel (416) 925-2145
Section Two:
The following is a transcript of a publicly made recording. All parties
who are identified in any manner were cognizant that a recording device
was in use.
Comments by myself will be in [square brackets].
"OT7" refers to a female staff member of the Church of Scientology of
Toronto.
"RB" refers to the 'Reverend' Al Buttnor member of the Church of
Scientology of Toronto.
"D'ART" refers to an anonymous individual member of the protest.
"WGH" refers to myself. I personally made this recording.
NOTE: Not until later, after these recordings did I get to see the above
DA packet being handed out about the protest and myself.
[As I reported earlier in my post: The Toronto Picket Report, I and my
two companions were immediately photo and video and audio recorded as we
began our lawful demonstration. I was first approached by a middle aged
woman whom I later learned was an OT7. She asked me my name before I could
get my recorder turned on .]
WGH: " Would you like to ask me that again?"
OT7: " What is your name?"
WGH: " My name is William G. Hagglund. Its on the permit or the Notice of
Demonstration."
OT7: "Okay"
WGH: "You can look it up at the police station. And all my particulars,
address, phone number, hat size, everything else, OK?"
OT7: "And what are the names of your two other colleagues?"
[ Here I screwed up and anticipated she was going to ask if my companions
would share their names, hence my over quick answer:]
WGH: " Oh, I have no idea."
OT7: " Ok, so I'll ask them myself"
WGH: "Yeah. You'll have to ask them that. We are all independents"
OT7: " Okay"
WGH: "What's your name?"
OT7: " Ah, its not important."
WGH: " Okay. I see. I've given you my name, but you won't give me yours."
OT7: "That's right."
WGH: " Ah! Very Good! I 'd say that's *very* fair."
OT7: "Okay"
[Moments later I am approached by Reverend Buttnor. I again take a moment
to pull out and turn on my recorder:]
[RB off tape asked 'Are you William Hagglund?']
For the rest of this we are moving constantly. The Reverend wants to stop,
but I keep control by walking. If he wants pump me it will be on my
terms.]
WGH: " Yes! You'd like to ask me a question?"
RB: " Yeah. Why are you doing this?"
WGH: " Ah, because I am opposed to certain of the organisational practices
of the Church of Scientology."
RB: " And what are they?"
WGH: "Ah, we'll start with Fair Game and well, also [I dodge a passerby]
well go from there."
RB: " Really? So let me ask you this:-"
WGH: " We have to keep moving. Its the rules."
RB: "-What is the ah, What particularly is your experience with
Scientology?"
WGH: What is my experience? Personally? Not much. I've read Dianetics.
I've read about everything else too. It took me about five *weeks* reading
Operation Clambake to get everything."
RB: "Right. So you're ah, you're a Psychologist right?
WGH: " Oh No. No, no,no."
RB: " You're and exit counsellor right?-"
WGH: " Yes I am!"
RB: " - You're an exit counsellor is that correct?"
WGH: " I see your intelligence is very good!"
RB: " Well, you put it on the Internet, sir-"
WGH: " That's right! Now, of course you guys don't monitor the Internet. I
mean all those people you have post on the Internet deny you monitor the
Internet for you Right?
Like RonsAmigo is not *handling * the Internet, eh?"
RB: " I don't know what you're talking about."
WGH: " Of Course Not! Of course not. [ Our hero RB begins to retreat in
confusion.]
RB: " No, of course not buddy! You're the one that is out here with your
signs-"
WGH: " That's Right! Would you like to ah-
D'ART: " -carry one for awhile?"
WGH: " Yeah, Hah! [ RB is now backing away into the main Org. doorway.] "
Would you like to read about it, sir?" [ I wave a flyer at him but you can
hear a passerby snatch it out of my hand. I address the passerby:] "The
story of Xenu." [ A woman in a business suit grabs one as she passes. To
her:] " Here is what they don't tell you." [ A middle aged man and his
daughter come up and he gestures for an RX. I address him:] " Here you
go, sir, bedtime reading."
Here I stopped the recorder, but after a few moments to gather himself RB
makes a stab at a return:]
RB: off tape "Look buddy-"
[I turn the tape on:]
RB: "-the United Nations guarantees we have freedom of religion and
religious thought and the right to practice ones religion right?"
WGH: " AB-So-lutely! And it-"
RB: You go along with that-"
WGH: " Yes! It also guarantees the right to protest."
RB: " Sure it does, "[ he points at my sign] "but, it helps if you are
honest doesn't it?"
WGH: " Yes it does."[ I point to it too.] "Now that says Scientology:
Dangerous UFO CULT."
RB: " Now what's dangerous sir? Come on. Lets get down to basics on this!
Come on!"
You're the one, er, You've found three lunatics-
WGH: "HAH!"
RB: "You're, you're like Heavens Gate! Three lunatics wandering around!"
WGH: " Straw man, sir. Tell it to Lisa Macpherson about the Introspection
Run-"
RB [Quickly retreats]: "Oh, right, right, right."
Here ends the tape as RB leaves the field.
Elapsed time of all this is three minutes.
I don't think I had more of an objective than to not let him run the show
or set the rules.
I did not realize until later that I had him on tape admitting he had
researched my postings on the Internet. This is damning as he had to
deliberately and intentionally misquote, misconstrue and omit portions of
my archived Usenet Posts in order to defame me.
Thus, the contents of the letter, on Church Letterhead, are not accidental
or based on innocent misinterpretation, but on consideration and with
deliberation and with the collusion of his Church organisation he
constructed or had constructed a likely libelous fabrication.
<Ka-Ching!> Ah yes, the sound of inspiration! The till has been opened!
<grin>
Section Three: Wolves and Exit Counselling and Business, Oh My!
You'll have to be a little patient with me folks, but I just have to bury
this fat tur- er this gentleman : the 'Reverend' "BIG AL" Buttocks, er
Buttnor.
You know 'Uncle Al', I have you on tape stating that I put onto the
Internet that I do exit counselling upon occasion. Now how did you know
that? OT powers or DejaNews? And If you used DejaNews then you could not
fail to read the following Posts. I think they put the Boots to you, sir.
You may have just bought a legitimate Charity in Toronto a new hospital
wing.
I have kept the headers and snipped the 'dross' for this little round
ups purpose. Show these to your lawyers Butthead. What a Maroon!
[Editorial comments are square bracketed.]
Subject: Re: Message to OSA Clams
From: elrond@cgo.wave.ca (Gregg Hagglund)
Date: 1997/03/09
Message-Id: <elrond-0903972203240001@burl110-31.cgocable.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
[More Headers]
In article <33222875.4A9E@netcomuk.co.uk>, Roland
<rolandrb@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
(snip) (Good stuff tho', sorry...)
>
>Just what do you think is going to happen in Catholic countries when
>this information finally filters through? When they realise how
>anti-religious and anti-Christian Scientology is. When they realise that
>the group they have tolerated in their midst is intolerant of
>Christianity in the extreme but lies to Christians so that they join
>your cult and so that they can rob them of their faith on OT III. Just
>how do you think you will be treated?
>
>The Internet is becoming increasingly important. It will be an integral
>part of life soon. And yet Scientology is universally reviled on it.
>This means you are defeated Clams! Your aim to brainwash the planet will
>come to nothing.
>
I agree Roland, however you missed one bet, I think.
Didn't LRH claim all religions are false? Propaganda or implants by
Xenu? What do you think the Shiite Moslems in Iran would think of that?
Would it be just fitting if Mr. Rushdi, (who was IMHO unfairly targeted by
the Imams,) were to be joined by Mr. Miscavige, LRH's heir apparent?
Not that I want anything to happen to Mr. .M. He has a lot of jail time
to eventually serve and a lot of settlement cheques to sign. I'd just like to
see the associated publicity of such a declaration. I hardly think the Iranians
could achieve what the process servers cannot: Find the darned deadbeat.
IMHO those of the Cos who seek to implement their aims and impose
their doctrine have declared war on humanity and "should be dealt with
as wolves are". (Politically and conservationally incorrect but conveys
the feeling.)
Gregg
[<click><Bang!> Gee. I specify a group and type within the Cos and not the
members, or Scientologists, in General. Too bad Rev! Does It hurts?]
**********************************
Subject: Re: Message to OSA Clams
From: elrond@cgo.wave.ca (Gregg Hagglund)
Date: 1997/03/11
Message-Id: <elrond-1103970726170001@burl110-31.cgocable.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
[More Headers]
(Posted and Mailed)
In article <01bc2df0$736c2740$87d623c7@bigbeard>, "BigBeard"
<lnieman@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
<Gregg Hagglund <elrond@cgo.wave.ca> wrote in article
>
><snip>
>
>;
Big Beard:
> Wolves have been bad rapped enough. Yeah, I see the disclaimer but that
>really should have been "should be dealt with as wolves used to be."
>Besides,
>if you give them half a chance a wolf is friendlier and a LOT more honest
>than
>Cof$ will ever be.
Quite right Big Beard. I sit corrected. Wolves are a lot friendlier.
They also
don't pretend to be anything else except a wolf. Therefore I withdraw the
above
and rephrase:" IMHO those of the Cos who seek to implement their aims and
impose their doctrine have declared war on humanity and "should be dealt
with
as wolves" used to be.
Peace,
Gregg
[<click><Bang!> Oh gee Rev! Looks like you missed the rhetorical and
humorous parts Hmmm? Using the Braille form of Scientology are we?]
********************************
[ I think the post below adequately displays my sympathies for exiting
Scientologists and their families. Really sounds like 'unblemished hatred'
doesn't it? Is this the best that DyingEthics can do for you Rev?]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Subject: Re: Bad News From Flag!!!
From: elrond@cgo.wave.ca (Gregg Hagglund)
Date: 1997/04/30
Message-Id: <5k6akq$gbu@nr1.toronto.istar.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
[More Headers]
(snip) [Replying to Dennis:]
When I was first told of the conduct of the Co$ I was skeptical.
But the sincerity of those whose seminar I attended, specifically
focused on exit counselling of CoS escapees and their families,
convinced me to go looking.
ARS was recommended as a good source of info.
So I lurked.
And lurked.
I saw many instances of posters asking for specific answers
from the Co$ shills on this NG.
And no comprehensive answers were forthcoming.
Ever.
This helped to solidify my opposition for the Co$ and to study
the 'spiritual' claims of the Co$. I find them empty of promise and
hope. They were originally offered not as a real path to enlightenment of
the
human spirit, but as carefully crafted path for the enlightenment of the
Human wallet.
And Flag answered not.
*No News* is bad news from Flag, for it reveals their furtiveness and
dishonesty. Their shame in their 'beliefs'. Even Flag believes not in
them.
Bad News from Flag is their continued lack of communication.
This empty hand of theirs is Bad News *for * Flag, in the end.
************************
[The following states explicitly my position on deprogramming. I just *
can't imagine* how a judge or a jury would figure you missed<click><Bang!>
this one Revvie!]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Subject: Re: PICKET REPORT - Clearwater $cientology Protest '97
From: elrond@cgo.wave.ca (Gregg Hagglund)
Date: 1997/03/13
Message-Id: <elrond-1303972235060001@burl110-31.cgocable.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.scientology,fl.general,fl.news,alt.religion.scientology.squic
k.squick.squick
(Snip) [Replying to Tillman:]
Good show!
One question tho'. In Canada, as in the states, recording as you tried to
do
in a public demonstration is quite legal, as there is no reasonable
expectation
of privacy. However, when you were in the booth at the restaurant, we
would
consider this "private". If the OSA goons in the next booth recorded your
conversation for later "transcription" then they would be guilty of a
federal
offence up here in the Great White North.
I am saying this here because I know this is all OSA monitored.
Previously I had tolerated some of the alarmist talk of posters here as
a little paranoid, justifiably so, given Cos track records,but I thought
just a leetle bit overthetop... EHHH! Wrongo.
I know this is monitored because I have received a few calls,
on my listed number, asking me to be involved in a deprogramming
action, which are almost invariably deemed illegal. I have stated here
and to my callers that I do exit counselling by referral. Referral from
local Clergy. On an unlisted number. I also counsel anonymously
through the email and snail mail. I do not do deprogramming. That involves a Major Imposition and is actually against my Spiritual and
cultural beliefs.
****************************
[Here is a nice one all about how I am all for supporting those *who
volunteer* to leave a cult. Gee, I wonder how<click><Bang!> you got the
idea I would *force* someone to leave a cult? Even one as criminally
inclined as yours is Revvie!]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Subject: Re: Brainwashing, Myth or Reality
From: elrond@cgo.wave.ca (Gregg Hagglund)
Date: 1997/03/12
Message-Id: <elrond-1203971955210001@burl110-31.cgocable.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
[More Headers]
(snip)
[Here I am 'pestering' cult shill William T:]
If you ever wish to leave the Church, please feel free to contact:
atlan@cgo.wave.ca
or
esicncil@cgo.wave.ca
We will assist you in exploring your options,
letting you decide your course of action. We are non denominational
exit counsellors from cults. We are not deprogrammers.
And you may want to reach out to us or someone like us.
For, by being willing to contact this NG you are deeply in trouble
with your Masters.
Or, if ordered to contact this NG, then, your Masters consider
you *expendable*.
In either case you will probably end up in an Ethics check,
maybe even the RPF.
You do know about the RPF?
The necessity of the RPF as a tool of discipline and
control of Cos members is the clearest demonstration of the
total invalidity of the methods, operation, aims and purposes
of Cos.
Remember, if you are punished for contacting us, then leave.
Go to a safe place. Try any Church , Temple or Mosque of the orthodox
open faiths and ask for a quiet place to think. Try the nearest Sally
Anne.
You can be safe away from the Cos, but you will never be safe *in* the
Cos.
Good Luck.
***************************
[Now here is a *very* revealing and *terribly well concealed* public
statement by me on exactly why I am opposed to some parts of the Church
of Scientology. Notice I don't care a hoot what you believe in. Can you
say<click><Bang!> OY! Revvie? Does it hurts your wittle butty head?]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Subject: Who's Who on ARS v2.1
From: martinh@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt)
Date: 1997/04/13
Message-Id: <oZYUzMdlgIlK092yn@islandnet.com>
Gregg Hagglund, elrond@cgo.wave.ca. Priest in an obscure "New Age"
denomination, Gregg is active on a referral basis as an exit counsellor to
those leaving controlling "new age" cults. After attending a private
workshop on the needs and fears of those exiting/escaping from Scientology
he became interested in researching the cult and its activities. After
lurking for several months on a.r.s. and having done a lot of reading
Gregg
has committed himself to open opposition to the Cos. "I am opposed to Cos
because of the harm it does in the name of religion and under the guise of
a religion, when it is clearly operating as a business, con game and money
scam. It is their *presumed right to conduct harmful activities* and
impose
their will on others without limit I oppose, not whether they in believe
Xenu etc. The programmed activities and repressive actions [sanctioned by
the hierarchy of the Cos] upon their own members and anyone they deem
"enemy" are extremely aggressive, abusive and routinely inhumane. I
believe
the rapid nonviolent demise of this criminally active money hungry cult
will preserve the lives and sanity of thousands, if not millions of
individuals throughout the world." (By: Gregg Hagglund)
********************************
Not only are these good examples of what a dishonest Poltroon the Rev and
or his lackeys are, but they are ALL the examples that exist which can be
searched by DejaNews on the subjects of OSA Goons and Wolves and exit
counselling and deprogramming connected to me.
Now lets skip to your mind reading OT powers Revvie.
You say I am planning a business career out of exit counselling and
drumming up clients for The Enlightened Self Interest Council for World
Harmony by "spreading biased and misleading information". (The last is so
ironic I'll just leave it as it is.)
Now how did you find out that ESI Council is an abbreviation for the
much longer name? Gee, I've never used the long form on the Net. So how
could you possibly know about that? Clever Revvie! Did you have someone do
a name search at Consumer and Corporate Affairs on ESI Council? Uh huh,
you did, you clever clam you!
Just one thing tho' Revvie.
Where on that registration does it say anything about Exit
Counselling?
Doesn't does it?
As a matter of fact, you can't find, anywhere on the face of this
planet, one single bit of any advertising for, soliciting for or making
money from 'Exit Counselling' by myself or the ESI Council. I have never,
ever been paid anything for Exit Counselling anyone! You could ask my
clients, but their names are all a blur to me and as a Priest, I am
subject to Privilege in communicating Anything about them.
So Revvie do you think you screwed up yet?
Your Org. is downstat. Your Anniversary was a flop. You blew the
handling of me and my colleagues at your doorstep and hung your ass at the
same time.
And I am just a neophyte suppressive!
You are you're own worst enemy Reverend. You can't confront and you
have absolutely none of the four cornerstones of a spiritual personage.
You seriously lack Integrity, Honesty, Compassion, and Charity.
So does your cult of Greed and Power.
You have no talent for PR Rev. Stay out of the business.
You thought you could hurt me and intimidate me with the thought of "
oh no, what will they do next?" with your little bit of Libel? You are an
idiot! The Hill Case puts me, the possible plaintiff, in the driver seat
on this one. This is Canada Butthead! Our courts don't quiver and quake
with trepidation at the sound of 'Scientology'! Nope, our Supreme Court
found your organisations activities so heinous and unapologetically
criminal that the Supremes upheld the conviction of a self proclaimed
Religion: Scientology!
In a moment I am going to push a key and send your deceits and
innuendo and out and out lies all over the world, to honest folk and let
them decide who is what.
I am unafraid to do this, for I dwell openly in this world.
You dwell in the darkness.
And it *will* consume you should you stay.
See you on the Picket Lines.
And just wait until you see what we have in store for you next!
Gregg.