A Clear Bracelet and eBay.com

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Clear bracelet, sold, 1 bid
From: "ewsnead" <ewsnead1@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:22:08 GMT

"Ted Mayett" <tedmayett@despammed.com> wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11086&item=2686333598

> I was thinking seriously of buying this myself. I was thinking there
> had to a value to it and that it had to be worth something.
> The seller said this:
> "These used to cost around $200.00
> I don't know what they are now.
> But this one is faithful to the original 'L. Ron Hubbard' design and
> even has his little inital logo on the back to prove it was approved
> by LRH. I haven't seen any current ones that have that little
> signature."

> This bracelet sold on one bid, for $100. This is not right, this
> should not be like this. *IF* there were anything to scientology, to
> ron hubbard, this would have, and should have sold for more than the
> original price.

> There is nothing here, no pride and no history to scientology.
> This ebay sale proves this. And then, only 139 people clicked on the
> item, and 4 of those clicks were me. How sad, scientology to be so
> worthless.

Your remark is so on the mark. There is zero pride, no appreciation for quality or sense of remembrance. There is no sense of a public or greater community with which one shares, belongs or participates. Scientology is a cult that attempts to obliterate the past. Even the very notion of a past is anathema to an organization that idealizes living "in present time." Its practical mission through auditing serves to wage war upon the past by obliterating it, rendering its impact negligible upon present actuality and feeling. Tradition, continuity and vital connection between oneself and one's predecessors are viewed with contempt as history is constantly revised and rewritten for the sake of immediate expediancy. There remains only the glorification of temporary ephemera, the frisson and a vain hope for the future salvation of the self. But there can be no viable future if the past is lost and anything of quality or substance is mocked.
ews

> My condolences to the seller. That item should have come in well over
> $200. Adequate ad copy, impeccable pictures, and a rare item from out
> of the past. What a bummer.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Clear bracelet, sold, 1 bid
From: karethian@msn.com (michael pattinson)
Date: 26 Jan 2004 16:25:42 -0800

In 1990 I bought a New OT8 solid gold bracelet on the Freewinds.
Price tag....$3,250.00
In the late 1990s I had to sell it, and I only got $125 for the gold value.
Speaks for itself, doesnt it?!
Glad to out. Disappointed at being sooooooo scammed.
Michael.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Clear bracelet, sold, 1 bid
From: google@draemr.com (Michael Leonard Tilse)
Date: 27 Jan 2004 12:03:55 -0800

Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Cerridwen) wrote
> From the 2002 DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY
> HOLIDAY CATALOG
> SCIENTOLOGY JEWELRY & INSIGNIA

> 33R SMALL THETA CHAIN STERLING SILVER CLEAR BRACELET
> Full US$102.00/CAN$156.00

> 33S MEDIUM STANDARD STERLING SILVER CLEAR BRACELET
> Full US$ 120.00/CAN$ 183.00

> I compared the one on ebay to the pictures in the catalog and
> would guess that it was either 33R or 33S. It looks as if
> the person paid what the C of S is currently selling it for.
> Cerri

Hi. Well, yes it sold for $100.
Trying to remember, without digging up the receipt, I paid at least $160 for it in 1982. Of course this was the era that the Hunt bros. were cornering the market on silver and it was up to $30 or more per ounce. And Richard Stewart was selling bags of silver dollars to scientologists.

Yes it is, at $100, about what you pay now. But again, I don't think the new ones have the LRH initial on them.

I liked the old Saint Hill designs with the plain background behind the occult scientology symbol. I thought the textured stuff was too disco and cheesy.

And Michael and Tory and the others are right. It is just a rip-off, with no real respect for history or tradition in scientology. I can hardly believe what Michael paid for his OT 8 bracelet. Dang!

But it is symptomatic. Now, everybody has to re-do their courses, even if they had a 'permanent' cert. The bulletins and policy are changed with no trace back to the original issues and without physical evidence of hubbard authorizing the changes. (snip)

It is careful and wholesale obliteration of the past. So it is not surprising that an original designed clear bracelet would get only passing interest.
Michael

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